圣经学者两种见解：
1，“神的儿子们“在旧约中一般指天使（伯1：6；2：1；38：7）因此有人解释这里是“不守本位的天使“闯进人类世界，（比较犹6-7；彼后2：4-9），和人类的女子结合，产生了6：4-6所说一代半人半神的“伟人“。
2，“神的儿子们”指一切敬畏神的人，是赛特及其后裔；“人的女子们“指一切不敬畏神的人，是该隐及其后裔；“娶来为妻“含有长久婚姻关系的意思，是指双方通婚。而6：4所说的“伟人“，当时已经存在，和“上古英武有名的人”没有关系。
大多数学者比较支持第一种意见。无论哪种解释，都显明了撒旦败坏人类的行为，因此除了挪亚一家，都在大洪水中消失了。
在彼得前书3：19-20提到了这些人。
如此看来我也支持第一种意见。
没有理由赛特的后裔娶来该隐的后裔，生下的就是“伟人“；反之，该隐的后裔就不能娶来赛特的后裔？作者: 我是一片云么？ 时间: 2006-4-19 17:28 标题: 先知的帖子一定要顶到先头去才好 作者: 参m 时间: 2006-4-19 20:15 标题: 回复：先知的帖子一定要顶到先头去才好 最初由[我是一片云么？]发布 先知的帖子一定要顶到先头去才好
谢谢你的“顶”
除了你的“顶”，我还想读到你的“疑问”贴子。
呵呵，抛玉引贴 是我的强项。作者: Jingchan 时间: 2006-5-1 22:20 标题: The Word of God is perfect! Notice the single theme of Jesus' teaching.
There's nothing wrong but all perfect in the word of God.
Even others (including your brother) are as good as you, you are sinner! How can you expect others will be better by your teaching?作者: Jingchan 时间: 2006-5-1 22:25 标题: To "学生不能高过先生" “
6:37 你们不要论断人、就不被论断．你们不要定人的罪、就不被定罪．你们要饶恕人、就必蒙饶恕．〔饶恕原文作释放〕
Even others (including your brother) are as good as you, you are sinner! How can you expect others will be better by your teaching?作者: 参m 时间: 2006-5-2 22:22 标题: 回复：The Word of God is perfect! 最初由[Jingchan]发布 The Word of God is perfect!
Even others (including your brother) are as good as you, you are sinner! How can you expect others will be better by your teaching?
谢谢Jingchan的贴子！
新人加入，顶！作者: 参m 时间: 2006-5-4 12:45 标题: 回复：《创世纪》48、49章 最初由[feng94]发布 《创世纪》48、49章
Saved by grace alone!
This is all my plea:
Jesus died for all mankind;
And Jesus died for me.
MAN SAYS: "I do not believe that I am lost."
“我并不认为我失丧啊”
God says: "The Son of man came to seek and to save that which is lost."
“人子来，是为寻找和拯救失丧的人”
Man says: "I believe doing right is the way to heaven."
“好行为是通向天堂之路”
God says: "By works of righteousness shall no flesh be justified in His sight "
“没有一人能因好行为在 神面前称义” 罗马书3：20
Man says: "I am doing the best I can. What more can God expect?"
“上帝还想要怎样？我已在尽我最大的努力了啊”
God says: "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ"-and, "This is the work of God, that ye believe on Him whom He hath sent"
“信靠 主耶稣基督， 信 神所差来的，就是作 神的工”
Man says: "My good works, my gifts to the church, my kindness to the poor, will reconcile God to me."
“我的好行为、送给会所的礼物、对穷人的仁慈等让我和 神和解”
God says: "Men are reconciled to God through of His Son."
“藉人子和 神和好”
Man says: "There are others worse than I am."
“呵呵，还有比我做得更差的”
God says: "There is no difference: for all have sinned."
“并没有区别：因为世人都犯了罪”罗马书3：23
Man says: "I was born in a Christian family."
“我可是出生于基督世家的啊”
God says: "Ye must be born again."
“你们必须重生” refer to 约翰福音3：7 and 罗马书
Man says: "I have a noble nature."
"我的本性高尚"
God says: "You were by nature children of wrath."
“你本为可怒之子”
Man says: "I think God will pass by such sins as I may have committed."
God says: "He spared not His own Son," when man's sin was laid on Him and, Christ cried out, "My God, my God why hast thou forsaken me?"
Man says: "My small sins; my lies, white lies."
“只是小小过犯而已嘛，有时撒撒谎，撒撒无关痛痒、也不伤害别人的谎而已”
God says: "The wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and all unrighteousness of men."
“神的愤怒从天上显明在一切不虔不义的人身上”罗马书1
Man says: "I am willing to chances."
我可愿意试试各种各种的机会啊
God says: "How shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation?"
“我们若忽略这么大的救恩，怎么能够逃脱罪呢？”
What fearful folly to dream that God will treat you, the sinner differently from Christ, the Sin-Bearer; God must judge sin, and He has judged it, at the cross! Go into bankruptcy at once, as a lost sinner, and rely on the shed blood of the only Redeemer! God cannot lie! He has said: "To him that worketh not; but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Romans 4:5)
For I know that after my death, you will surely become corrupted, and deviate from the way which I had commanded you. Consequently, the evil will befall you at the end of days, because you did evil in the eyes of the Lord, to provoke Him to anger through the work of your hands.
看一下犹太人的圣经注释：
[For I know that] after my death, you will surely become corrupted But actually, throughout all the days of Joshua, they [the Jews] did not become corrupt, for the verse states, “And the people served the Lord all the days of Joshua” (Jud. 2:7). [What, then, did Moses mean when he said that they would become corrupted after his death? We learn] from here that a person’s disciple is as dear to him as his own self, for as long as Joshua was alive [even after Moses’ passing], for Moses it was as though he himself was alive. [Hence, when Moses said“after my death,” he was in fact alluding to the death of Joshua, thus referring to the period after Joshua’s passing.]
http://www.chabad.org/library/ar ... &showrashi=true作者: 圣经读法太多 时间: 2006-5-21 22:28 标题: 在别的坛子上看到教徒猛批达芬奇密码 说电影很糟糕，恶评如潮。今日无意中看了几眼电视，说这电影首日票房创了纪录。后又听说有排队几十米购票的情形。
有看过这电影的么？实际情况是是受欢迎呢，还是观众大多不喜欢呢？作者: yushan 时间: 2006-5-22 17:32
To WJXUP:
All the comments on this topic are very good, however, yours is very helpful to me. Thanks.作者: 虚无缥缈 时间: 2006-5-23 13:52
某虽也读经，盖皆不了了之，难得有如此执著探求真理的。佩服，某今后也应细读。作者: yushan 时间: 2006-5-23 14:44
难得虚公子有此感慨。望神能进一步引导你。读经其乐无穷， 受益无穷。多想多问。
有什么体会拿出来共享。作者: 竹拔尖 时间: 2006-5-24 10:30
学生不能高过老师很容易理解的。
说的是高度，没看到学生都坐着，老师都站着，还常常站到讲台上。
别搞太复杂，其实都很容易理解的。作者: 参m 时间: 2006-5-24 11:55 最初由[虚无缥缈]发布
某虽也读经，盖皆不了了之，难得有如此执著探求真理的。佩服，某今后也应细读。
[虚无缥缈]网友打算细读圣经，好，顶一下！作者: 参m 时间: 2006-5-24 15:42 最初由[竹拔尖]发布
学生不能高过老师很容易理解的。
说的是高度，没看到学生都坐着，老师都站着，还常常站到讲台上。
别搞太复杂，其实都很容易理解的。
这种解释，很牵强吧？作者: 参m 时间: 2006-5-24 16:09
[feng94]兄，不对我的翻译给点意见? 给点鼓励、给点proofreadings.谢谢先了！
Saved by grace alone!
This is all my plea:
Jesus died for all mankind;
And Jesus died for me.
MAN SAYS: "I do not believe that I am lost."
“我并不认为我失丧啊”
God says: "The Son of man came to seek and to save that which is lost."
“人子来，是为寻找和拯救失丧的人”
Man says: "I believe doing right is the way to heaven."
“好行为是通向天堂之路”
God says: "By works of righteousness shall no flesh be justified in His sight "
“没有一人能因好行为在 神面前称义” 罗马书3：20
Man says: "I am doing the best I can. What more can God expect?"
“上帝还想要怎样？我已在尽我最大的努力了啊”
God says: "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ"-and, "This is the work of God, that ye believe on Him whom He hath sent"
“信靠 主耶稣基督， 信 神所差来的，就是作 神的工”
Man says: "My good works, my gifts to the church, my kindness to the poor, will reconcile God to me."
“我的好行为、送给会所的礼物、对穷人的仁慈等让我和 神和解”
God says: "Men are reconciled to God through of His Son."
“藉人子和 神和好”
Man says: "There are others worse than I am."
“呵呵，还有比我做得更差的”
God says: "There is no difference: for all have sinned."
“并没有区别：因为世人都犯了罪”罗马书3：23
Man says: "I was born in a Christian family."
“我可是出生于基督世家的啊”
God says: "Ye must be born again."
“你们必须重生” refer to 约翰福音3：7 and 罗马书
Man says: "I have a noble nature."
"我的本性高尚"
God says: "You were by nature children of wrath."
“你本为可怒之子”
Man says: "I think God will pass by such sins as I may have committed."
God says: "He spared not His own Son," when man's sin was laid on Him and, Christ cried out, "My God, my God why hast thou forsaken me?"
Man says: "My small sins; my lies, white lies."
“只是小小过犯而已嘛，有时撒撒谎，撒撒无关痛痒、也不伤害别人的谎而已”
God says: "The wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and all unrighteousness of men."
“神的愤怒从天上显明在一切不虔不义的人身上”罗马书1
Man says: "I am willing to chances."
我可愿意试试各种各种的机会啊
God says: "How shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation?"
“我们若忽略这么大的救恩，怎么能够逃脱罪呢？”
What fearful folly to dream that God will treat you, the sinner differently from Christ, the Sin-Bearer; God must judge sin, and He has judged it, at the cross! Go into bankruptcy at once, as a lost sinner, and rely on the shed blood of the only Redeemer! God cannot lie! He has said: "To him that worketh not; but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Romans 4:5)作者: 小盐粒儿 时间: 2006-5-24 16:31 最初由[孙参]发布
What fearful folly to dream that God will treat you, the sinner differently from Christ, the Sin-Bearer; God must judge sin, and He has judged it, at the cross! Go into bankruptcy at once, as a lost sinner, and rely on the shed blood of the only Redeemer! God cannot lie! He has said: "To him that worketh not; but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Romans 4:5)
:clap:
谢谢鼓励作者: 参m 时间: 2006-5-25 12:04 最初由[圣经读法太多]发布
January 23, 2006
Italian Atheist Sues Catholic Priest For Fraud
Some people never get over being told the Easter Bunny doesn't exist.
Posted by Captain Ed at January 23, 2006 05:27 AM
谢谢[圣经读法太多]的资料。可惜是英文的，有得我花时间，慢慢读来。
要是[圣经读法太多]贴主能把它翻译出来共享就更好了。作者: 参m 时间: 2006-5-26 08:18 标题: 回复：搜索中文资源，得： 最初由[圣经读法太多]发布 搜索中文资源，得：
:mad: :rolleyes: 
