标题: 用两本护照出入中国遇麻烦 [打印本页] 作者: 实话-实说 时间: 2007-5-28 13:44 标题: [评论]用两本护照出入中国遇麻烦 全世界几十亿人,总于发现一个聪明的,脑子还进水了,惨惨!作者: XY106 时间: 2007-5-28 13:54
粘小便宜吃大亏!作者: davidh 时间: 2007-5-28 14:17
Just use common sense, and that person should find out it won't work that way. What can I say, try to save small money, and now in big trouble. stupid!作者: cagesd 时间: 2007-5-28 14:18
去福建,跟船偷渡回加拿大作者: DICK1000 时间: 2007-5-28 14:54 标题: 最好的办法 最好的办法是。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。哈哈哈！留在中国，不用回来了。这种人在中国一定大有作为！哈哈哈！！！作者: Sedona 时间: 2007-5-28 14:56
I have said it before. See this link:
Tina, if you are using the method above, I wish you would not be locked up by the US Customer.
In my humble opinion, none of the above answered the question. Let me try.
1. To renew your Chinese passport, you have to produce a letter from Immigration Canada that you do not have any Canadian citizenship. When you are applying for Canadian citizenship, you don't have any problem obtaining such a letter and eventually renewing your Chinese passport.
2. To leave Canada, you don't need any documents to satisfy CBSA. The airline may ask for your proof though.
3. To enter Canada, you need a PR card if you do not have status. For Canadians, you need proof of Canadian status, e.g. passport, birth certificate or nothing, if the CBSA officer trusts you are a Canadian.
4. To enter China, you need a passport and a visa where applicable. If you have a Chinese passport, you don't need a visa.
5. To leave China, you need a passport, and in your case, a Chinese passport. The key is if you don't have any proof of Canadian immigrant status, the Chinese government will not allow you to leave.
In the old days, the landed paper will be sufficient, but now, the Chinese customer will check if you have a PR card. Once you become a Canadian citizen, you don't have the PR Card or the landed paper in your possession.
Where do you have proof to show the Chinese custom to leave China? We all know a Chinese passport doesn't mean freedom to leave China.
In a nutshell, once we don't have a PR card, we need a Canadian passport and a visa to return to China. You can continue to use your Chinese passport to go to other countries though.作者: 溪流蜿蜒， 时间: 2007-5-28 17:07
1. 申请去泰国落地用加拿大护照签证。
2. 或中国不需签证即可前往的第三国，落地用加拿大护照签证。
3. 最好是香港或澳门。
4. 要尊纪守法。作者: bootstrap 时间: 2007-5-28 17:50 标题: As an canadian entering China illegally Your friend should be put into jail for 2-4 weeks, and then expelled from China and won't be allowed back to China for ever except otherwise noticed.作者: hack 时间: 2007-5-28 18:37
why does chinese government not recognize duple nationality? I don't know if any country not allow duple except china. just want to make a lot of money for both governments(chinese and canadian), and waste of lot of money and time for chinese immigrants? if the governments don't make this small money for 粘小便宜, they will win more hearts from people and won't 吃大亏 in the long run. :O作者: Sedona 时间: 2007-5-28 19:05 最初由[hack]发布
why does chinese government not recognize duple nationality? I don't know if any country not allow duple except china. just want to make a lot of money for both governments(chinese and canadian), and waste of lot of money and time for chinese immigrants? if the governments don't make this small money for 粘小便宜, they will win more hearts from people and won't 吃大亏 in the long run. :O
In the world, there are more countries not recognizing dual citizenship. If you become an American, you must give up your Canadian citizenship.
Nothing wrong with China.作者: hack 时间: 2007-5-28 21:47 最初由[Sedona]发布
In the world, there are more countries not recognizing dual citizenship. If you become an American, you must give up your Canadian citizenship.
Nothing wrong with China.
really? but I still want china to learn good example, don't learn bad stuff from u.s. u.s. has planty of good thing worth to be learnt by china. but.. to my disappoint, chinese government only learns bad.
:p作者: 飞跃太平洋 时间: 2007-5-29 01:03 最初由[Sedona]发布
I have said it before. See this link:
Tina, if you are using the method above, I wish you would not be locked up by the US Customer.
In my humble opinion, none of the above answered the question. Let me try.
1. To renew your Chinese passport, you have to produce a letter from Immigration Canada that you do not have any Canadian citizenship. When you are applying for Canadian citizenship, you don't have any problem obtaining such a letter and eventually renewing your Chinese passport.
2. To leave Canada, you don't need any documents to satisfy CBSA. The airline may ask for your proof though.
3. To enter Canada, you need a PR card if you do not have status. For Canadians, you need proof of Canadian status, e.g. passport, birth certificate or nothing, if the CBSA officer trusts you are a Canadian.
4. To enter China, you need a passport and a visa where applicable. If you have a Chinese passport, you don't need a visa.
5. To leave China, you need a passport, and in your case, a Chinese passport. The key is if you don't have any proof of Canadian immigrant status, the Chinese government will not allow you to leave.
In the old days, the landed paper will be sufficient, but now, the Chinese customer will check if you have a PR card. Once you become a Canadian citizen, you don't have the PR Card or the landed paper in your possession.
Where do you have proof to show the Chinese custom to leave China? We all know a Chinese passport doesn't mean freedom to leave China.
In a nutshell, once we don't have a PR card, we need a Canadian passport and a visa to return to China. You can continue to use your Chinese passport to go to other countries though.
非常详细地分析和判断。好贴子！！！值得注意，谢谢sedona老乡！！！作者: surrey 时间: 2007-5-29 01:49
回复hack抱怨中国不承认双重国籍的帖子
1。 全世界绝大多数的国家是不承认双重国籍的。（承认的实际少数）
2。 双重国籍也不是什莫“好”东西。它起源于被殖民地国家。美国摆脱英国统治的努力之一就是废除双国籍，是美国独立的标志之一。（亲英的南方美国人北上加拿大的原因之一）。
3。 双重国籍在每个国家有不同的具体解释。请留意日常新闻，远一点说，我们的总督就职前宣示放弃法国国籍。最近的事，官司缠身的传媒大亨在努力恢复加拿大国籍 （他为了领取英国绝未放弃了加拿大国籍，一旦他在美国判有罪的话，加拿大可以禁止他入境）。简单说，双重国籍在帮这位女士回来上面一点用都没有。
4。我想你想说的是“互免签证”协议（如果有的话，你可以拿中国或加拿大护照自由进出对方国家）。除了欧共体外，这个系统也在变化中，远的是英国撤出香港前推销的BNO, 现在是废纸了，因为超过70个国家已经给与特区护照免签或落地签待遇。另一面，美国在收紧美加边境。（被指责滥用，和成为恐怖分子的通道）
5。 我想知道，有没有人使用过深圳的外国人免签可居留两周的制度， 请介绍！作者: be strong 时间: 2007-5-29 06:50 最初由[Sedona]发布
In the world, there are more countries not recognizing dual citizenship. If you become an American, you must give up your Canadian citizenship.
that's not true. If a Canadian citizen becomes a US citizen, he will end up with dual citizenship. Canada doesn't revoke the citizenship of a Canadian who obtains another citizenship. US law requires new citizens to make a "renunciatory" statement as part of the naturalization oath, but this statement is not considered legally valid under Canadian law. You have to go to a Canadian embassy or consulate and sign a special form in the presence of Canadian officials to give up your citizenship. So, for practical purposes, the renunciatory statement in the US naturalization oath has no legal effect.作者: 爸爸 时间: 2007-5-29 07:38 标题: if you have US visa,then it's easy buy the air ticket to State from HongKong,then go there to
get out of China作者: 实话-实说 时间: 2007-5-29 08:41 最初由[Sedona]发布
I have said it before. See this link:
Tina, if you are using the method above, I wish you would not be locked up by the US Customer.
In my humble opinion, none of the above answered the question. Let me try.
1. To renew your Chinese passport, you have to produce a letter from Immigration Canada that you do not have any Canadian citizenship. When you are applying for Canadian citizenship, you don't have any problem obtaining such a letter and eventually renewing your Chinese passport.
2. To leave Canada, you don't need any documents to satisfy CBSA. The airline may ask for your proof though.
3. To enter Canada, you need a PR card if you do not have status. For Canadians, you need proof of Canadian status, e.g. passport, birth certificate or nothing, if the CBSA officer trusts you are a Canadian.
4. To enter China, you need a passport and a visa where applicable. If you have a Chinese passport, you don't need a visa.
5. To leave China, you need a passport, and in your case, a Chinese passport. The key is if you don't have any proof of Canadian immigrant status, the Chinese government will not allow you to leave.
In the old days, the landed paper will be sufficient, but now, the Chinese customer will check if you have a PR card. Once you become a Canadian citizen, you don't have the PR Card or the landed paper in your possession.
Where do you have proof to show the Chinese custom to leave China? We all know a Chinese passport doesn't mean freedom to leave China.
In a nutshell, once we don't have a PR card, we need a Canadian passport and a visa to return to China. You can continue to use your Chinese passport to go to other countries though.
这个世界上还有你这样的傻瓜, 真他妈丢中国人, 你在加拿大办美国签证, 一般可给十年签证, 但你要仔细看清楚你的签证是有条件的, 签证上面写有(LANDED IMMIGRANT INＣＡＮＡＤＡ），这个签证要和枫叶卡一起才可从中国处境， 你不是 IMMIGRANT INＣＡＮＡＤＡ
怎么那么容易的到美国签证的． stupid!作者: 实话-实说 时间: 2007-5-29 08:49 最初由[Sedona]发布
I have said it before. See this link:
Tina, if you are using the method above, I wish you would not be locked up by the US Customer.
In my humble opinion, none of the above answered the question. Let me try.
1. To renew your Chinese passport, you have to produce a letter from Immigration Canada that you do not have any Canadian citizenship. When you are applying for Canadian citizenship, you don't have any problem obtaining such a letter and eventually renewing your Chinese passport.
2. To leave Canada, you don't need any documents to satisfy CBSA. The airline may ask for your proof though.
3. To enter Canada, you need a PR card if you do not have status. For Canadians, you need proof of Canadian status, e.g. passport, birth certificate or nothing, if the CBSA officer trusts you are a Canadian.
4. To enter China, you need a passport and a visa where applicable. If you have a Chinese passport, you don't need a visa.
5. To leave China, you need a passport, and in your case, a Chinese passport. The key is if you don't have any proof of Canadian immigrant status, the Chinese government will not allow you to leave.
In the old days, the landed paper will be sufficient, but now, the Chinese customer will check if you have a PR card. Once you become a Canadian citizen, you don't have the PR Card or the landed paper in your possession.
Where do you have proof to show the Chinese custom to leave China? We all know a Chinese passport doesn't mean freedom to leave China.
In a nutshell, once we don't have a PR card, we need a Canadian passport and a visa to return to China. You can continue to use your Chinese passport to go to other countries though.
不是吧，哈哈。作者: lotuss 时间: 2007-5-29 13:10 标题: 国籍法应修改 我赞成单一国籍，但应该是只承认中国国籍。国籍法中第九条应取消。
世界上不承认双重国籍的国家和地区，如美国，中国香港，中国台湾，都是，一旦入本国国籍，就不承认他国国籍。只有中国大陆是反之。这样的国籍法世界上独一无二。
美国不承认双重国籍，但不反对国民加入别国国籍。只是不承认而已。所以，有美加2本护照的人，对美国来说，只承认美国国籍，除非书面申请退出美国国籍。对加拿大是双重国籍。
请注意，这与中国大陆的不承认双重国籍是不同的。作者: 中国龙 时间: 2007-5-29 16:52 标题: To Tailand with chinese passport It is smart idea to Tailand with Chinese passport. Because you can go to Hongkong and then go to Tailand with chinese passport only using plane ticket instead of Tailand visa. Then you come back to Canada with Canadian passport and don't need explain to CIA anything.作者: publicbus 时间: 2007-5-29 17:29 标题: 容易的事搞砸了 你这位女性朋友确实很笨，其实移民来加拿大的类似这种笨人很多的，多数是有学历的。那个出主意得更是可恨，我想应该是研究生学历。不是你吧？
In the world, there are more countries not recognizing dual citizenship. If you become an American, you must give up your Canadian citizenship.
Nothing wrong with China.
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Dear Sedona,
how do you explain the above what MS RICE said. from that we can see that u.s. does recognize dual citizenship, doesn't it?作者: J 将军 时间: 2007-5-30 10:37
看来这位女士是听信了谣言...要那么容易蒙混海关，咱都成腰揣多本护照的007了。她现在想回来是没有问题的，老老实实注销中国国籍就好了，以后像大家一样签证进中国。给大家的提示是，如果在中国的联系还很多，不要轻易更改加国国籍。除了选举权，移民不也差不多么？
奉劝各位“能人”别再给人家出经过第三地回加的主意了，就算侥幸成功一次，也不是长久之计，岂不同于让她持两本护照回国的朋友？制度虽然总有空可钻，但记住：出来混，总是要还的！作者: big nose 时间: 2007-5-30 11:27 标题: 可以走 可以走的,有方法.也很简单.不用注销中国户口.告诉我你的电话,我可以告诉你,是合法的途径.我只是想帮你的朋友. [email protected]作者: XY106 时间: 2007-5-30 12:52
既然是合法的途径,为什么不敢在这里说,怀疑????????作者: 飘梦 时间: 2007-5-30 19:55 标题: 自找麻烦 做人还是脚踏实地的好啊！作者: 实话-实说 时间: 2007-5-31 07:58 标题: 回复：To Tailand with chinese passport 最初由[中国龙]发布 To Tailand with chinese passport
It is smart idea to Tailand with Chinese passport. Because you can go to Hongkong and then go to Tailand with chinese passport only using plane ticket instead of Tailand visa. Then you come back to Canada with Canadian passport and don't need explain to CIA anything.
居留期不足 持枫叶卡香港女子被取消居民资格
香港移民朱洁媚(Kit Mei Ann Chu，音译)于2004年1月9日申请到枫叶卡，前些时朱洁媚到加拿大驻香港签证办事处申请一次性使用的旅游文件时，移民官认为朱洁媚在申请旅游文件前5年未在加拿大住满2年，朱的申请遭到拒绝。朱不服移民官的决定，向移民上诉部门(IAD)提出上诉申请，聆讯时朱洁媚表示，她与已是加拿大公民的4岁女儿在香港居住期间，也能计算在实际于加拿大居住时间内，根据她的算法，她实际居住超过900多天。但移民部代表不同意朱洁媚的算法，指法令只说与具有公民资格的配偶在海外居住才算数，与具公民资格的子女居住，并不能计算在居住时间内。
在北京還有央房(中央所屬機構的住房)的管理問題, 但ShenZhen的商品房買賣方面更容易.作者: rabbit101 时间: 2007-6-6 14:55 标题: 2 passports are possible, not like this! I do not know if this is a real case. But if you really need help, please contact me.作者: 三个戴表 时间: 2007-6-8 21:28
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Go on...!!作者: mahefang 时间: 2007-8-3 12:23
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都加拿大国籍了,还占着国内的房子和单位呢?! 过份了作者: hl65 时间: 2007-10-28 01:21
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你好.我看你只有一个办法.就是求助于加拿大驻中国的使馆.在你的中国护照上办一个进入加拿大的签证.1.加拿大承认双国籍.2.你回加拿大不存在移民侵向.是回家.3.政府有帮助本国国民的义务.我想你可以试试.作者: hl65 时间: 2007-10-28 01:34 标题: 你好. 我想你可以试试.
你可以到加拿大驻中国使馆.用你的中国护照去申请到加拿大的签证.
原因1:加拿大承认双重国籍.2.你办理回加拿大的签证.与移民侵向无关.是回家.3加拿大政府,有义务帮助本国国民在外面所遇到的麻烦和困难.作者: williamcc 时间: 2007-10-30 09:43
Does anybody know how to give up Canadian citizenship and get back Chinese passport?作者: Sedona 时间: 2007-10-30 11:16 最初由[williamcc]发布
Does anybody know how to give up Canadian citizenship and get back Chinese passport?
I know the former. Contact CIC for a form, complete it and send it back. It will take about 9 months to complete.
I don't know the later. I don't think there is a legal means for the Beijing government to re-instate your citizenship.
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