中国人之所以内斗厉害，是因为领导人不是全民选举出来的

weinberger

美国更好，杀光原住民 -- Another lie, did you see this? The Native people live well, pay no taxes, have their own land, maintain their own unique culture and lifestyle. Everybody respects them.
You watched too many cowboy movies I guess

中国是世界上内斗最厉害的国家，所以中国各名族可以在一起生活超千年。
还有什么国家可以做到？欧洲好啊！不内斗，所以国家多。
美国更好，杀光原住民，看你团结不？
中国节 发表于 2010-6-10 11:05

weinberger

Yes, there were a few native people died in the earlier years. There were American, British, French, Spanish, Mexican were killed  there too. So what? which country does not have any people killed in its history? 中国节 uses the word 杀光, which means kill off, destroy entirely, nobody left, this is a lie, clear?

这个回帖强！先表明“another lie”，就是以前曾经lie。然后把lie说一下。
呵呵！美国人没有杀过很多原住民？哦！真有见地哦！还是没有见识？
中国节 发表于 2010-6-10 11:30

weinberger

Some people do not vote because they are satisfied with the way their governments and congresses are being run, so they do not eager to make any changes. They believe they are well represented and well serverd by the people who run their countries.
If a dictator suddenly takes over the country, people's behavior would be totally different.

美国加拿大台湾等等全民选举的国家，每次投票率如此之低，看来人民这么多年也看出来了，这个民主就是扯淡，过自己的小日子去了。
kstone 发表于 2010-6-10 11:44

weinberger

No government can satisfy everybody in a country. So when some people are not satisfied with their condition (yes, I'm talking about 物质文明), would the government rather let them speak out with their votes, or let them bring out knives, chemicals, bombs, home-made guns and cannons? People would do anything when they are desperate.

这个各人有各人的见解了，精英们讲究精神文明，老百姓讲究物质文明。自己给自己做主，看看选举重点还是抓经济，看来还是老百姓多些啊。
kstone 发表于 2010-6-10 11:53

weinberger

If the poll indicates the candidate I support already have 80% of majority votes, I probably will not take time off to vote since I know he or she will win even without my vote. Which part of this you don't understand?

不通，不投票表示支持现政府？这也太扯了吧。
kstone 发表于 2010-6-10 12:01

weinberger

Just because some people do not vote, you want to take away everybody's right to vote?

您要偷换概念也别这么明显，看看我回的什么再说吧。
kstone 发表于 2010-6-10 12:19

weinberger

He is trying to say people do not vote in China because they are satisfied with the Chinese government.

有一定道理，如果对现在的生活满意，为什么要去改变他？
头发乱了 发表于 2010-6-10 12:28

weinberger

You spend all the time trying to ridicule what other people say, but what's your point then? Can you state it out clearly? My impression is that you are trying to say:
1. People in China do not vote because it's useless to vote. Look at the US, people do not vote even when they are given the chance to vote.
2. The Chinese government are so good that it provides good material life that makes every people there very happy, so nobody cares to vote.
If the above are not correct, then what is that you try to say?

您又偷换概念，中国人民不投票的。现在不是再说全民投票的美加人民嘛，这个不投票的理论不是你说的嘛，怎么要转让给我？
kstone 发表于 2010-6-10 12:45

weinberger

hehe, Chinese style democracy, it's nothing but fake democracy, yes, you can vote, Oh, by the way, you can only vote for this one person who is pre-selected by the party.
Question is, if democracy is so bad like you guys say, why the Chinese government even bother to pretend to have a democracy? why it does not proudly say: "Yes, we are a dictatorship. Democracy is trash"

中国有现成的成功政治制度，各国都可采用嘛
霧雨長風霜塵月 发表于 2010-6-10 13:13

weinberger

yes, two party system is democracy, one-party system is not. As soon as there are two groups of politicians competing against each other, attacking each other in order to win people's votes, people would have the political power, and a leash is put on the politicians to control their behaviour. If China allows two parties to exist, even they're Hu Jing Tao's communist party and Wen Jia Bao's communist party, let them compete for votes, China would be called a democracy, clear?

你对美国的两党轮换制是这么认识滴，简直是深恶痛绝嘛
霧雨長風霜塵月 发表于 2010-6-10 13:32

weinberger

反对美国政府的人是恐怖主义分子 -- The US government never say anything like that. There're millions of people who oppose the US government including both foreigners and American themselves. Only those who want to achieve their political goals by attacking, killing unarmed, innocent civilians are called terrorists. Afgan Taliban soldiers are killing US troops there, but the US government never call them terrorists.

我的看法是在白人统治的国家，是就是是，非就是非，没有外人指责和干预，而在其他国家，一旦发生争吵，总有外人插手，这是根本原因。中国政府武装干预示崴是镇压，而泰国也干同样的事没人这么说，反对美国政府的人是恐怖主义分子，而反对中国政府的人士民主勇士。
网上好邻居 发表于 2010-6-10 14:50