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http://www.51.ca/bbs/showthread.php?postid=525802#post525802
 上次是怀疑“弄舟”，这次又改作“cafun”，我不理解您为何总是要做这样的猜测？人的思维不必如此单一。
还有，我们什么时候言辞如您所说的“so arrogant, rude, and lacking basic upbringing”，还烦请您指正，以便我们改进。
"I suspect if he graduated from elementary school." 这句话是您的发言风格吗？ :confused:
最后想提醒您一下：我的名字是“赵平原”，汉语拼音 ZHAO PINGYUAN，不是 Zhao Ping Run
Hi, Mr. [网站管理员] or Mr. 赵平原,
Thanks for your reply and your [悄悄话] message.
(1) "最后想提醒您一下：我的名字是“赵平原”，汉语拼音 ZHAO PINGYUAN，不是 Zhao Ping Run "
First I have to say sorry to you for my mistake. I didn't do it knowingly. As you may know, on 51.ca a few of people also pointed out my 汉语拼音 mistakes. It means that I was a worse student in elementary school than you and others. I did not know how I graduated from elementary school. Secondly, from now on I will not make this mistake again if I have a chance to mention your name.
(2) ""I suspect if he graduated from elementary school." 这句话是您的发言风格吗？"
Firstly, your words shocked me. I am a small potato, how can I have a "您的发言风格" ? Then I thought about it for a while. I guess even if I have some "您的发言风格", it might be:
i) To a public person or a powerful person, my words usually are sharp, loud, and straightforward. For example, in 51.ca, I think [网站管理员], "版主" are public and powerful people.
ii) To an ordinary person, I am more polite, patient, tolerant, and warmhearted.
Regarding the sentence “I suspect if he graduated from elementary school”, I confused why you put 3 question marks on a head symbol. It might be I am wrong: when you were in university life nobody used this saying. When I was in University, almost every day there was a person who used the saying to sneer at my mistakes or bad performance. My typical answer was that “yes, yes, I already returned my diploma to the elementary school.” The other saying was that “Hi, Zhang JanAi, you are really a peasant. ” My typical answer is that “not only, but also a remote mountaineer.” I still remember that one day a user in 51.ca complained about my saying, “Only a nine-head bird can fly forever in the sky; only a Hu-Bei person can live forever on the ground.” I said I am one of Hu-Bei people….. The real meaning of “I suspect if he graduated from elementary school” is that: When we were in elementary school, the teachers taught us to have good behavior. When someone helps us, we should say “thanks”. When we make mistakes, we have to say “sorry”.
Picking up the thread, as I showed the reasons many times (please check the above posts), I have been thinking that “Mr. [cafun] should say sorry to Mr. [fireball].” But no reply from Mr. [cafun] or 51.ca. That was why I introduce that saying. If you and Mr. [cafun] and 51.ca still think you are right without proper reasons, I receive my saying. As you said, “我无话可说。” (Your original words: “如果这也被您认为是新闻，我无话可说。”)
(3) “上次是怀疑“弄舟”，这次又改作“cafun”，我不理解您为何总是要做这样的无聊猜测？人的思维不必如此单一。 ”
As you know, “怀疑” is not a good thing. However, it is one kind of human freedom. Nobody can annihilate it. When I was in China, the words I heard form leaders almost everyday is that “Don’t discuss. You all do not understand the whole picture.” But the ordinary people never have a chance to “know the whole picture”, so they will never be eligible to talk about anything.
YOU, as a having-聊 person, 不理解others为何总是要做这样的无聊猜测. Now let me tell you what “my如此单一思维” are:
(i) “上次是怀疑“弄舟”, that is right. Did anyone of 51.ca clarify it? Is it very difficult? Why did you purposely make it mysterious? Is it a big deal? Therefore, it is the source of “这次又改作“cafun”.
(ii) In my view, both “弄舟” and “cafun” are rude and arrogant, and lacking basic upbringing. So many events happened, and this situation has lasted so long time. The top level of 51.ca management cannot say or do anything. Only result of (logical) reasoning is that “I guess [cafun] is just the pen name of Mr. Zhao Ping Bo or Zhao Ping Yuan.”
(iii) I checked different parts in 51.ca and did not find any information about the introduction of 51.ca management system. For example, what is the relationship between [网站管理员] and [版主]? Who is the [网站管理员]?......
To tell the truth, it really shocked me that you said you ([网站管理员]) are “赵平原”. Because I have thought you were “赵平Bo”. I thought (before) only “赵平Bo” has good skills in Chinese writing. YOU (“赵平原”) only have good skills in web design and“赵平原” can only work in back stage as a technician. I only heard 2 times about you. The first time was that you two brothers accepted the interview of disgusting Hua Bao and you only inserted a few words. The second time was that Mr. Mu Run mentioned you once in his post on 51.ca.
In sum, for “上次是怀疑“弄舟”，这次又改作“cafun”，我不理解您为何总是要做这样的无聊猜测？人的思维不必如此单一”, I can only be partly responsible for it. You or 51.ca have to show your audience you are having-聊, and then your audience can avoid “无聊猜测” and “人的思维如此单一”.
(4) You also ask: “还有，我们什么时候言辞如您所说的“so arrogant, rude, and lacking basic upbringing”，还烦请您指正，以便我们改进。”
First your polite words and attitude surprised me. In my impression, 80 percent of your ([网站管理员] ) words and attitude are acceptable. However, 80 percent of “弄舟” and cafun’s words and attitude are not acceptable at all, typically so arrogant, rude, and lacking basic upbringing. (But I also have to point out: 51.ca is really improving itself, for example, giving a message for deleting or moving a post).
Secondly, you also surprised me that you asked me “我们什么时候言辞如您所说的“so arrogant, rude, and lacking basic upbringing””. If you appoint me as the版主 of ”意见反馈” block, I will give you a detail report. Right now I only point out a few examples (which you might think it is not arrogant, rude, and lacking basic upbringing. In this case we can only put this topic aside.)
(i) Did you read some posts of mine? If not, please read it. I quote a pile of them. But nobody says anything. Is it not arrogant?
(ii) Two answers from “cafun”:
“合并同类帖子. 另,此帖发在时事新闻不当!” and “已经告诉你了,合并,不是删除! 也不必太敏感.” Is it not arrogant and rude?
(iii) I still remember 弄舟’s ugly words which threatened some user : “Delete your posts in a hurry. Otherwise I will use group delete function to delete them.”
IF you allow me posting the examples here, next time, I will.
Dear Mr. “赵平原”, they really do not know how many human “Dragons” and “Tigers” in Toronto. I really do not understand : Is it good for 51.ca when 51.ca has upheld them??? Is it good for their own development in Toronto???
If you say “yes”, as you said, “我无话可说。” 51.ca belongs to you and your brother, not someone else.
(5) May I take advantage of the chance talking with you (which might be the last time in my life to talk with you even if I still visit 51.ca) to give you some extra message:
(i) First I want to say thanks to you and your brother, Mr. “赵平Bo” . Anyway, you provide our Chinese community a good website even though there is still some problem in management. I read some articles and get a pile of information from it and made some internet friends. And I still think Mr. “赵平原” is “Gao So” (expert on the top level in website design) and 51.ca is the best Chinese website in Toronto so far.
(ii) I cordially hope that you two brothers have successful career in Toronto even though 51.ca still has lots of weakness. As I mentioned in my previous posts: it is not easy that 2 brothers join together to achieve something. So even in some day you two cannot work together, everyone can work alone but surely keep brother-ship. Many relatives can join together in difficulty. After they become successful, they become enemy. I saw so many that kind of cases. Lu Xin brothers were also a typical example.
(iii) I cordially hope 51.ca develop healthily. So many public people (some so-called “Qiao Lin”) hurt Toronto Chinese community. As Mr. “赵平Bo” mentioned he cannot trust some Chinese stores really give some discount as Ads says. …. (By the way, I was the only one to “Ding” the idea of 大多地区本周末 for the first few weeks.) As I suggest many times that you’d better treat the users fairly and politely. Build some regulations for both sides of management and users. Set an example for our Chinese community, which is really not difficult. Your users are not your enemy. Most of them are reasonable, rational, and wise. I just mention one instance: (your post “既然你们这么怀念他们，sunny2008 甚至给我发来的抗议，我想我可以再做一些解释。其实，我知道，不管怎么解释，你们还是有你们的想法，这就是论坛。 关于“51的传说”被封闭，我已给出了比较详细的解释，也许很多人没有看到，我只好再贴一遍. 可以说，我处理51这么久，这是第一次收到如此粗俗的骂人短消息，一个能用短信如此骂娘的用户真的值得你们如此怀念吗？我有点不明白了。再说“云中摹莉”和“万家灯火照万家”，两个用户“凑巧”是一起封闭的，同时获得了三次纪录警告。这里没人为“万家灯火照万家”说情，可能一来他是个“新用户”，发帖不太多，二来他确实骂人太狠，几乎每帖必骂，恐怕也没人好意思他说话。…. 51论坛的骂人现象在“三次警告封闭ID”的措施出台后，已经得到了很大的扭转，这个措施在目前看来是很有效果也是有必要的，因此，对于违规的用户，我们不会网开一面。我也相信，坚持这个措施，真正理性的网友不会受到影响，只会从中受益。” I can say every word of your post are correct. But why nobody Ding you? Even your 版主 in “灌水贴图” opposed your idea. Why? They also know 骂人现象 is not good. But you did not organize well your managing team to create a healthy environment. Just driving the users away is not a good way.)
(iv) some people (especially you can tell me a ton of excuses) says that版主 is difficult. I am naïve and simple. I disagree with them and I want to experience it. Then I visited other Chinese websites. To be honest, comprehensively speaking, 51.ca is best and I like it. I only found a new Chinese website, www.beimeiguide.com, has better Forum design than 51.ca. Then I applied for a 版主 3 days ago. Definitely, that is only my recent hobby. Over 10 years I usually did not go to Chatting room. Mostly some time read some front page article and gave few comments. ( I have formal job and busy family life. )
The following is my first post (if you think it is not suitable, you can delete it. I just want to show your版主 what I think):
“New 版主 in 时事新闻 say hello to you
Dear everyone of 时事新闻 in Bei Mei Guide (北美指南),
I am Jan Ai Zhang from Mainland China.
Today is Good Friday in Canada, also my big Friday: new 版主 in 时事新闻!
Thanks Mr. Webmaster of 北美指南 for the appointment of mine as the 版主 in 时事新闻 !
I will do my best on my duty:
(1) Seriously observe the rules of Canadian law.
(2) keep the regulations of Bei Mei Guide
(3) I will set an example to follow the regulations I build for 时事新闻.
(4) I will treat every customer as my guest and also my master:
I will be polite, open-minded and tolerant,
and definitly provide them with good and warmhearted service.
I have lived in Toronto some years.
I cannot forget the difficulties when I just come to Toronto.
And I want to have more friends and also help each others or exchange ideas with our Chinese immigrants or students overseas.
I like talking any topic or answering any questions with open mind.
By the way, please contact me:
[email protected]
which recognize Chinese charactors better than @yahoo.ca.
Sincerely yours,
Jan Ai Zhang “
If you think it is ok , let me show other版主 only one month how to deal with the customers (The main idea is as the above). |
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