特别的爱献给自己

齐力

请原谅我没看出来这部影片跟上帝有什么关系。
只知道，龙是邪恶，火是死亡和地狱。
白色百合 发表于 2013-12-29 14:43

当我看第二遍 "The Lord of Ring" 时，我意识这个神话其实折射了圣经故事，并坚信作者一定对圣经研究很深。事实还真的是这样。作者 J.R.R. Tolkien 是罗马天主教徒。他说他以一颗虔诚的罗马天主教徒的心来写 这个神话故事， 他写到： "The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision." [1] By design The Lord of the Rings is not a Christian allegory but rather an invented myth [2] about Christian and Catholic truths. But that presents a problem for filmakers. Because the Christian"  以下特别引用了圣经Ephesians 中的章节来阐述故事的根本：“Our struggle is not against enemies of blood and flesh, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers of this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. (Eph. 6:12)




我在网上找了一些相关的资料，百合如有兴趣，不妨看看：:-D

Here are some of the ways The Lord of the Rings is a Christian myth.

• Darkness pervades Middle-earth where man, beast and nature are called to an adventure full of peril and hope. Here is how Elijah Wood explains the film's dominant theme: ???No matter how bad things are, no matter how much evil there is in this world, there is always some good worth fighting for, worth standing up for, and worth some effort in carrying on.?? [3]
• The One Ring illustrates how evil can entice and enslave. Beautiful gold rings are enticing to wear. But when we slip them on our fingers we announce our devotion and loyalty to their owner.
• Gandalf and Saruman, while not analogous, have traits, goals, and experiences similar to those of Jesus and Satan.Gandalf is even tempted in a battle with Saruman not unlike Christ is tempted by Satan in the wilderness.
• Evil is parasitic and can only destroy that which was created. Everything that Il??vatar (God) created in Middle-earth (and in our world) is good. It is the perversion and corruption of what was created that is evil. Good can exist on its own. Evil can only live off what is good.
• Like all Chritians, Frodo is called to risk his life through great peril to save others. Frodo, like us, does not appear to be up to the task. He does not have any obvious talent suited for war. But he is chosen, as we are. We are all necessary for God's grand plan to be fulfilled; and even the most unlikely and disgusting Gollum-like beast in our life is necessary. And when Frodo asks, "What can a little hobbit do?" — Isaiah answers, "A little child will lead them" (11:6).
• In the Shire, the Hobbits come naturally to living a beatific life that Christ calls Christians to live by. The Hobbits are the meek that inherit the earth, the merciful who receive mercy, the pure in heart, and the peacemakers. (Mt. 5:3-12)
• Like all Christians, Tolkien's characters are called to play roles in a story tht is much greater and more important than they are aware. Just as we are not aware of all that has happened before us, [4] so Gandalf, at the end of The Hobbit, says to Bilbo, "You don't really suppose, do you, that all your adventures and escapes were managed by mere luck, just for your sole benefit? "you are only quite a little fellow in a wide world after all!"
• There is a longing for the return of the king. As Christians long for the return of Christ the King, so the free people of Middle-earth long for their kingdoms to be once more united in peace and justice under the rightful heir. Did I mention that Aragorn looks like Christ?
• The Fellowship of the Ring is constituted of different characters with different gifts suited for battling evil — the diversity keeps them united. This is not unlike the diversity of spiritual gifts and temporal talents given to the different members of the Christian community for the unity of the body — so that we might be dependent on each other.
• Upon leaving Lorien, each of the Fellowship members are given custom fitted Elvish hooded cloaks not unlike St. Paul's amour in Ephesians 6:10-17. Again, Tolkien disliked allegory; so the cloaks are not exactly like St. Paul's amour of salvation. But they do have mystical traits of great aid that keep them safe in their battle with evil.

齐力

感谢齐力 感谢教会  感谢上帝  
孩子本来就是上帝恩典给我们的礼物，将来首先领他（她）认识主，这是理所当然的。

我这半辈子，什么都有过，别人有的东西，我基本上都有过，亏的就是一个孩子，
只要有了孩子，什么都平和了，什么都宽容了。

其实我现在已经平和了，不然姑娘也不敢跟我走，她父母也不会让。
就是每次回到蒙特利尔，总有一股无名火起，不出一个星期基本上就平和了。
守望者阿魁 发表于 2013-12-29 01:12

这个美丽的女士是你这次回国刚认识的？ 够勇敢！祝福! (f)

白色百合

我以为你说的是这部新片。:-D

凡间

百合好！
我有同感，第二部比第一部好看很多！ 你看出来没有百合？这个系列的导演对圣经的理解一定非常深刻。
每个圣诞季节我重温影片，都会联想到圣经！感受到上帝的能量。那个时候，我会完全沉浸在无边的爱和力量中。

新部的片尾曲非常动听。


oh, misty eye of the mountain below
Keep careful watch of my brothers' souls
And should the sky be filled with fire and smoke
Keep watching over Durin's son

If this is to end in fire
Then we shall all burn together
Watch the flames climb high into the night
Calling out father, stand by and we will
Watch the flames burn auburn on the mountain side

And if we should die tonight
Then we should all die together
Raise a glass of wine for the last time
Calling out father, prepare as we will
Watch the flames burn auburn on the mountain side
Desolation comes upon the sky
齐力 发表于 2013-12-28 22:18

    很喜欢这首歌，你回复百合就不敢多说，那仙境让人向往

白色百合

说我吗?你这是第二次问，我得好好回复你一下。
守望者阿魁 发表于 2013-12-30 17:40

不好意思，我是回复齐力#50

齐力

这个姑娘也很坎坷，从小在成都她姥姥家里长大，父母哥姐都生活在拉萨。
姥姥就她妈妈那么一个女儿，把这个外孙女视做掌上明珠，从小就是娇生惯养。

姥姥去世以后，父母就在拉萨给她安排下了非常好的工作，可她不能适应高原气候。
父母退休到绵阳养老，她也辞掉工作回到成都，从来都是我行我素，眼里没有别人。

机缘巧合，她哥哥嫂子姐姐姐夫，都领着孩子一起去看她父母，她也就把我叫去了。
她父母对我一见如故，她嫂子又是我老乡，说下次抱个孩子来，老两口也就安心了。

我回国前，就有很多人给我介绍对象，都是家境比较差的，都认为这样的可能性大。
连介绍人都说，你们能给对方的，对方都不需要，你们不可能成，就勉强见了一下。

这个结果谁也没有想到，也许正因为都无所求，也就没有患得患失，没有拐弯抹角。
彼此能给对方，就是一个安定的家，一个共同的孩子，没有其他问题需要考虑。
守望者阿魁 发表于 2013-12-30 00:17

听起来这个姑娘很不错！还是祝福！:-D

齐力

我以为你说的是这部新片。
白色百合 发表于 2013-12-30 17:13

对不起，我没说清楚。实际上，亲爱的，作者写的是系列故事。包括“The Lord of Ring" 三部曲, "The Hobbit" " Silmarillion" "The people of middle of earth".......人们称之为 the lord of rings.系列。Hobbit 第三部将在明年圣诞节期间上映。到时候再看。似乎故事没有那么激烈。还是同一个导演Peter Jackson.
我准备去书店买 "Silmarillion"来看，网上对这本书的评价不错。:-D

齐力

很喜欢这首歌，你回复百合就不敢多说，那仙境让人向往
凡间 发表于 2013-12-30 17:28

谢谢凡间喜欢。我稍稍翻译了一下歌曲。不对之处请包涵。:-D

深山里那神秘的眼啊，

请小心守望我兄弟的灵魂！

在那烟火缭绕的天空里，

请守望杜云的子孙！

如果火焰将灭，

那么让我们与它一起同尽，

见证烈火在夜空中升腾！

天父，请佑我们，守望这焰火在山边燃烧！

如果我们今晚将死，

那么让我们一起战死，

让我们举杯同饮最后一杯酒，

天父，请为我们准备好，让我们守望这焰火在山边燃烧，

看那无边的落寞慢慢升入天空。

齐力

还是感谢 这个姑娘本质不坏，就是太调皮了，跟你讲讲她怎么调皮。

你看她长的凶巴巴的，可是一笑起来，可乖了。
介绍人嘱咐我第一件事，就是想办法让她笑，她只要笑了，什么都好了。
我说好办，哄女人上床我不在行，让女人笑，太简单了，
介绍人说，你试试看吧，要是那么容易，她早嫁人了。
我一试，不象传说中的那么难，她天天笑，笑到开心时，老公都喊出来了。

双方介绍人要了解一下进展，特别我这方，回国一次不容易，不行就赶快给我介绍下一个。
女方介绍人去问她，感觉怎么样，她说，什么怎么样，你才问，我们早就零距离了。
男方介绍人就问我，没看出来，你老小子那么厉害，这么快就跟人家零距离。
我说什么意思，我什么便宜没占到，怎么就零距离了，这黑锅我背大了。

等到风声都放出去了，谁都认为我们关系确定了，人家把脸一拉，开始警告了：
从明天开始，不许再跟我毛手毛脚，也别再叫老婆，跟不跟你谈朋友，我还没考虑好。。。
守望者阿魁 发表于 2013-12-30 23:41

如果这姑娘和你在一起真的很开心，那么可能她就是真地喜欢你这个人。:-D 不错的开头。

凡间

谢谢凡间喜欢。我稍稍翻译了一下歌曲。不对之处请包涵。
深山里那神秘的眼啊，请小心守望我兄弟的灵魂！在那烟火缭绕的天空里，请守望杜云的子孙！ 如果火焰将灭，那么让我们与它一起同尽，见证烈火在夜空中升腾！天父，请佑我们，守望这焰火在山边燃烧！ 如果我们今晚将死，那么让我们一起战死，让我们举杯同饮最后一杯酒，天父，请为我们准备好，让我们守望这焰火在山边燃烧，看那无边的落寞慢慢升入天空。
齐力 发表于 2013-12-30 22:20

翻译得很好，正与邪的格斗让人揪心

约克鹿

回复 1# 齐力
齐力也是全家一起去电影院呀。再加上一大桶爆米花一家人分享（抢）:laugh: 其乐融融。

齐力

回复  齐力
齐力也是全家一起去电影院呀。再加上一大桶爆米花一家人分享（抢） 其乐融融。
YorkDeer 发表于 2013-12-31 10:57

是啊，我记得你说过你们也是全家一起去看这个电影。真好！(f)

凡间

在正义与邪恶的格斗中，邪恶总是首先占据上风，
因为正义在开始是没有防范的，而邪恶也是披着正义的外衣。
守望者阿魁 发表于 2014-1-1 20:20

    你要是那样想就已占下风