华裔女留学生苹果专卖店被指偷窃上手铐

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宝马7

谁让你去买苹果的东西,价格高质量一般般，据说外形时尚点。你不去追捧它自然牛不起来了

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克 飞

谁让你去买苹果的东西,价格高质量一般般，据说外形时尚点。你不去追捧它自然牛不起来了

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宝马7 发表于 2014-9-12 14:16 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

显然不是搞电脑的, 否则怎么会去买苹果？

ariel.c

[Gates is stealing the Declaration of Independence, which is rolled up in his jacket]
Gift Store Clerk: Are you trying to steal that?
Ben Gates: [looks around in surprise, spotting a box of Declaration replications for sale] Oh! Umm...?
Gift Store Clerk: It's thirty-five dollars.
Ben Gates: For this?
Gift Store Clerk: Yeah.
Ben Gates: That's a lot.
Gift Store Clerk: Hey, I don't make the prices.
Ben Gates: [searching through his wallet] That's umm... thirty-two... fifty-seven?
Gift Store Clerk: We take Visa.

SUPERFAN

那可不一定，俺就是搞电脑的，而且是正宗计算机专业的，俺是超级爱疯。

显然不是搞电脑的, 否则怎么会去买苹果？
克 飞 发表于 2014-9-12 14:20 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

ariel.c

那可不一定，俺就是搞电脑的，而且是正宗计算机专业的，俺是超级爱疯。
SUPERFAN 发表于 2014-9-12 14:26 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

是，爱osx，硬件比较封闭，屏幕划算倒是真的。

SUPERFAN

苹果的ips屏是最好的，鲜艳亮丽。三星嫌贵不用苹果的标准是白痴。

是，爱osx，硬件比较封闭，屏幕划算倒是真的。
griffiel 发表于 2014-9-12 14:42 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

老态龙钟

这事我觉着主要责任在她自己， 虽然是一场误会。 她不应该过分责怪店家。 更不应该把这事告诉媒体。 就怕别人不知道？
就是不给你用3 发表于 2014-9-12 12:25

    明摆着，这是明报高级黑那学生的。。孩子小不懂事啊。。

如鲠在喉

看到诸位的评论，个人觉得大家对公民拘捕权有些误解。公民拘捕权是指向小偷这一类的人，面对不得离开等待警察的要求，实施反抗，或是强行逃离时，才可实施公民拘捕。如对方没有任何不配合行为，店主不可以使用手铐的器具限制人身自由等。我觉得如文中描述属实，那这个保安的做法就是过分了。因此，此案这个女孩子很可能胜诉。她因该要求高额赔偿，不能要求仅仅道歉了事。

SUPERFAN

那位大侠知道相关的法律，介绍一下，懂得规矩就能更好的保护自己。

看到诸位的评论，个人觉得大家对公民拘捕权有些误解。公民拘捕权是指向小偷这一类的人，面对不得离开等待警察的要求，实施反抗，或是强行逃离时，才可实施公民拘捕。如对方没有任何不配合行为，店主不可以使用手铐的器具限制人身自由等。我觉得如文中描述属实，那这个保安的做法就是过分了。因此，此案这个女孩子很可能胜诉。
如鲠在喉 发表于 2014-9-12 16:01 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

如鲠在喉

这是刑法关于公民逮捕的条文：
Section 494 of the Criminal Code of Canada,
dealing with citizen’s arrest
Arrest without warrant by any person

494. (1) Any one may arrest without warrant

(a) a person whom he finds committing an indictable offence; or

(b) a person who, on reasonable grounds, he believes

(i) has committed a criminal offence, and

(ii) is escaping from and freshly pursued by persons who have lawful authority to arrest that person.

Arrest by owner, etc., of property

(2) Any one who is

(a) the owner or a person in lawful possession of property, or

(b) a person authorized by the owner or by a person in lawful possession of property,

may arrest without warrant a person whom he finds committing a criminal offence on or in relation to that property.

Delivery to peace officer

(3) Any one other than a peace officer who arrests a person without warrant shall forthwith deliver the person to a peace officer.

R.S., c. C-34, s. 449; R.S., c. 2(2nd Supp.), s. 5.

1234321

看到诸位的评论，个人觉得大家对公民拘捕权有些误解。公民拘捕权是指向小偷这一类的人，面对不得离开等待警察的要求，实施反抗，或是强行逃离时，才可实施公民拘捕。如对方没有任何不配合行为，店主不可以使用手铐的器具限制人身自由等。我觉得如文中描述属实，那这个保安的做法就是过分了。因此，此案这个女孩子很可能胜诉。她因该要求高额赔偿，不能要求仅仅道歉了事。
如鲠在喉 发表于 2014-9-12 16:01

你的理解太人情化了。是的，对小偷小摸，有的保安或店主不仅不实施逮捕，甚至都不报警，留下被偷的东西就让走人。但并不意味保安或店主对小偷没有拘捕权，保安有手铐，拘捕就是要铐你的吗，没啥不对。


下面来自官方信息：http://www.mcscs.jus.gov.on.ca/e ... al_authorities.html


Powers of Arrest

Security guards have neither police nor peace officer powers. They have the same powers as any member of the public under the Criminal Code. Specifically, section 494 of the Criminal Code describes when it is appropriate for a member of the public to make an arrest.
If a security guard is guarding property and is authorized by the owner of the property or the person in lawful possession of the property, they may make an arrest for ANY criminal offence that is committed on or in relation to the property, as long as the security guard witnessed the offence being committed.
If the offence is an indictable offence, they may make the arrest, even if the offence is not committed on or in relation to the property they are guarding, so long as the security guard has witnessed the offence. Security guards should therefore understand the distinction between an indictable offence and a summary offence. Typically, indictable offences are more serious; a lot of the offences that security guards normally encounter are indictable, e.g. theft.
Once an arrest has been performed, the security guard must deliver the individual to a peace officer as soon as possible.

1234321

这是刑法关于公民逮捕的条文：
Section 494 of the Criminal Code of Canada,
dealing with citizen’s arrest
Arrest without warrant by any person

494. (1) Any one may arrest without warrant

( a )
a person whom he finds committing an indictable offence; or

( b )
a person who, on reasonable grounds, he believes


      ( i ) has committed a criminal offence, and

       (ii) is escaping from and freshly pursued by persons who have lawful authority to arrest that person.

Arrest by owner, etc., of property

(2) Any one who is

the owner or a person in lawful possession of property, or

a person authorized by the owner or by a person in lawful possession of property,

may arrest without warrant a person whom he finds committing a criminal offence on or in relation to that property.

Delivery to peace officer

(3) Any one other than a peace officer who arrests a person without warrant shall forthwith deliver the person to a peace officer.

R.S., c. C-34, s. 449; R.S., c. 2(2nd Supp.), s. 5.
如鲠在喉 发表于 2014-9-12 16:32

对呀，说得很清楚呀。保安/店主都可以逮捕小偷。
你打黑体部分是说得不仅保安/店主可以拘捕小偷，我都可以拘捕她：保安在追这个小偷，小偷跑了混到人群中，被我发现了，我就可以拘捕她。
警察追逃犯一样，大家见到，都可逮捕他。

克 飞

如果该女孩在打电话而没有立刻离去， 明显保安也是有点过分.。。一般象这样的事, 追回就算了.。。怀疑是这个商店在利用这个事件进行炒作.

SUPERFAN

关键是对方不一定真有偷窃行为，而且是个女孩，也没有逃逸，店方过激的行为只会让自己更被动，智商太低没办法，如果是我，就把她请进办公室，给她一杯水，她要去洗手，就扣下她的证件，让她去，商家对客人应该有起码的尊重。

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